Oh, the pain!!! This hurt so much that it feels like the blaster had also gone right through my heart
Well, this might proof that I’m still salty about all this Anakin discourse that has been going on lately. But honestly? All the Anakin haters can fight me tbh.
I’ve seen many people complain saying that why Anakin didn’t put so much effort into helping Fives as he did with Ahsoka. But let’s check the facts. The Ahsoka thing probably took many days, since she was accused, and during all the time she spent escaping, which gave Anakin enough time to investigate and find the true guilty. Now, with Fives, it probably only took a few hours since he tried to kill Palpatine and Fives gave Kix the coordinates for Anakin to find him. There was no time to investigate, they needed to act quickly or Fives would have been captured by the Coruscant Guard.
When Anakin arrives, he’s only with Rex. He could have taken a clone squadron with them, but he didn’t, just as Fives had asked him. Then again, when Fives asks them to lower their weapons, he gives Rex the order to do it, only trusting Fives word about him being unarmed.
“We’re here to help you, Fives. Just come with us. Let us take you back to the temple” Anakin never intended to take Fives to prison or to whatever place they might have taken him. He wanted to take him to the Jedi temple, where he would have been safer.
When Fives tell them that he was framed, Anakin looks down, like he’s thinking about the whole situation. Then he asked for evidence. Here, we know that what Fives is saying is true, but they don’t, they believe that Fives is a dangerous man because he took out his chip, that’s what they have been told and they probably were certain of it because Fives tried to kill the “innocent” Chancellor. But Anakin says “Let’s get you some help first. Then we can review everything. It’ll be okay, Fives. We’ll sort this out”. Despite not believing in what Fives was saying, Anakin still wanted to help.
The only moment Anakin looses his patience is when Fives tell them that the Chancellor is involved in the plot. “The Chancellor is incapable of what you claim” he says. But let’s remember that Anakin has being manipulated by Palpatine, since he was a kid, into believing he’s a good man and a good friend of his.
Then the Coruscant Guard arrives and this is Anakin’s face when he sees them:
You can barely see it because the focus of the scene is in Fives. But he’s worried he’s scared for Fives. Then again, the scene focuses on Fives, but if you look at Anakin right before Fives tries to take Rex’s blasters, you see Anakin trying to stop him from doing it.
Then just see the gifs above to see how sad he was. And if you want more proof? Look at this:
You can’t convince me that he “didn’t care”
But then some people might say “why didn’t he investigate afterwards?”. He doesn’t because he trusts Palpatine. Palpatine tell them that it was a parasite and that it was the only cause of the “sickness” Fives and Tup had. Then Yoda and Mace say that the situation is over, so what else can we expect Anakin to do? The Jedi council stopped the investigation because Palpatine gave them the “solution”. There’s nothing else to do.
If we’re going to hate somebody, let’s hate Palpatine.
Anyway… after saying this, I’ll go back to keep crying about Fives because this scene hurt me too much.
@guineapigzwei yes they should have, but I think they didn’t bc, first, the plot was already established, order 66 had to happen. Second, the Jedi arrogance stop them from seeing the darkness behind all the situation. And third, the blind trust the Jedi order had in the Chancellor. They stopped investigating because Palpatine gave them the “solution” to the problem.
They were basically told “the cause was a parasite, but you don’t have to worry anymore because we’ve developed a vaccine for other clones so this won’t happen again” and they believed it. The Jedi needed the clone army to win the war and now that they know that the problem is “solved”, then why they should worry?
And the Jedi had more than one opportunity to stop order 66 from happening. I mean, Kix managed to discover the plot and he was just a one man! Imagine what the Jedi could have done if they had believed in Fives’ words!
One of the
most heartbreaking things about Anakin’s childhood at the Jedi Temple was his
inability to fit in. the Jedi’s inability to help him to find a home is something
I have a hard time forgiving and understanding. How did they justified it to
themselves? Didn’t them realize that alienating a boy goes against everything
the Jedi stand for? Community, compassion, non-judgment, etc.
More importantly,
how does it affects Anakin and how Obi-wan deals with it?
As much as criticize
Jude Watson for creating Gary Stu, I have to admit she really knows how to hit
me right in the feels. All the quotes are from the book Jedi Apprentice Special Edition: Deceptions by Jude Watson. So let me give credit where credit is due by sharing
this with you all:
They had been heading back from an intense physical
workout when Obi-Wan had spied the students from Anakin’s year heading to the
lake. He had seen the longing in
Anakin’s eyes as the students dived into the cool water.
“Go ahead,” Obi-Wan had told him.
“Take some time off.”
Anakin
had looked at him uncertainly, but Obi-Wan
shooed him off. It puzzled and worried
Obi-Wan how much time his Padawan spent alone. Anakin had told him that
he’d had good friends on Tatooine, especially a human boy named Kitster. He’d
been at the Temple for three years now,
but he hadn’t made one close friend, although he was well liked and
certainly got along with the other kids.
Obi-wan needs to Anakin for a debrief session with Yoda. Here remember the last
time he had saw Anakin and immediately assumes Anakin is playing with the padawans
at the lake. Obi-wan recognizes the longing in Anakin’s eyes and yet fails to
fully understand why Anakin was hesitant. Anakin’s longing is not only for the water.
Anakin longs for acceptance and friendship.
Obi-Wan had tried to talk to him about it, but the boy would just shut down. His eyes
would turn opaque and the corners of his mouth would straighten into a thin
line. He would seem very far away. Obi-Wan did not know how to reach him at
such times, but they were infrequent and passed as quickly as a rain shower.
Dissociation? At the age of 12, Anakin has been through
enough trauma and itwould fit the C-PTSD diagnosis, since it’s a psychological disorder associated with “repetitive, prolonged trauma involving harm or abandonment by a caregiver or
other interpersonal relationships with an uneven power dynamic.” Some of the
symptoms beings attachment issues (lack of trust, social isolation,
etc.), poor emotional regulation and dissociation.
When they’d met, Anakin had been a warm-hearted
nine-year-old boy with an open nature. He was twelve and a half now, and the
years had changed him. He had grown to be a boy who hid his heart.
I’m not crying. You’re crying!
[Obi-Wan] couldn’t resist a moment to see if Anakin
was enjoying himself with the others. He scanned the happy, splashing group
with the smile still on his face. It slowly faded as he realized that Anakin
wasn’t there. With a sigh, Obi-Wan turned away. He hurried to the nearest
turbolift. He knew where Anakin was. The
boy sometimes retreated to his own quarters.
Again with
the social isolation.
“I thought you wanted to swim,” Obi-Wan
said.
That shuttered look came over Anakin’s face.
“I hadwork to do,” he muttered.
Obi-Wan crouched by him. “This isn’t work,
Anakin. It’s a hobby. And if you are
using it to keep distance between you and your fellow students, it’s not a
helpful one.”
Anakin looked up, his bright eyes keen again. “But I’m making
things, Master! Look, I’ve almost got this astromech ready for service.”
“Mechanical ability is a valuable skill,” Obi-Wan said.
“That is not what I meant, and you know it.”
“They
don’t want me,” Anakin said flatly. He walked over and slung the legs of
the protocol droid under one arm. “I’m not like them.”
Obi-Wan couldn’t argue. Anakin was unique. There was no question about
that. He was an exceptional student, much more in tune with the Force than
others his age. He had come late to the Temple. It wasn’t that the other students disliked him,
they just didn’t know what to make of him.
Anakin
knows he’s not truly accepted, so why bother? And this is why I have a hard
time defending the Jedi’s treatment of Anakin. we are talking about a 12 years
old child with a traumatic past. As their teachers, legal guardians and family
they had the duty to do right by him. But instead of helping this child, these
wise masters sat in their comfortable chairs criticizing him constantly and not
doing anything about it. People try to excuse the Jedi behavior here by saying
they didn’t believe “in therapy” and such but you know what? You don’t need to
believe in therapy to be a decent human being and do right by a child.
The jedi
had a hive mentality. If the council decided Anakin was like everyone else, the
rest would follow. They were not known for being indivual thinkers (the will of
the Council is the will of the Force) anyway. If masters like Ki-adi-mundi were
wary of Anakin, why wouldn’t the children be too?
Even if a
mental health professional was beyond them, instead of marking hin as different
(as if that was necessarily a bad thing) they should had reinforced the idea
that every jedi was worth the same and that no judgment was a allowed. In the
end of the day, it was the little things that would have made the difference. Look
how beneficial Ahsoka was to his health, imagine if he that the entire Jedi
Temple supporting him.
When did it happen? Obi-Wan wondered again. Why did it happen? Was it the loss of his
mother, followed so closely by the death of Qui-Gon? Obi-Wan could not replace
those people in Anakin’s heart, nor did he wish to. He had hoped
that with Jedi training and their own relationship, Anakin would come to find
peace. He had not.
And here is
where Obi-wan fails. As much as he cares about Anakin he completely fails to
see the bigger picture. he’s aware of Anakin’s struggles and he wants to help
more than anything. But he also lays it all on Anakin. in his mind, Anakin is
the one that needs to change not the Jedi. The solution to Anakin’s problems is
to become a Jedi like everyone else. Obi-wan never wonder if the Jedi are wrong
in their treatment of Anakin, he disagree with their opinions but sides against them.
Barely two weeks ago, Yoda and Mace Windu had expressed doubts that
Anakin was ready for a mission. Anakin lacked discipline, they said.
Obi-Wan disagreed. It wasn’t so much a lack of discipline that caused
Anakin to break rules and send his droids scurrying over
the Temple corridors. It was partially boredom, he thought. No matter what
he threw at Anakin, the boy mastered it. He needed more challenges.
Where Yoda and Mace Windu saw a lack of discipline, Obi-Wan saw an
emotional restlessness that could not be cured by hard study or physical
trials.
Obi-wan
believes they are wrong but instead of trying to change the behavior of the
Council, he tries to change Anakin. And that’s their tragedy. Anakin was never
able to fully open up to Obi-wan because he probably sensed that Obi-wan would
side with the Council. And years later, he did. In Mustafar, while every cell
in his body was telling him not to harm Anakin, he still did it because the
Council (Yoda) told him to and the will of the Council is the will of the
Force. Which also makes Obi-wan a victim, because by following the will of the
Council (as he was indoctrinated to do) he destroyed any change he had of
living (and dying) in peace.
Yes, same
here. Luke’s Jedi Order is everything the PT!Order wasn’t. Luke was a healthy
and balanced individual and he created a healthy and balanced organization.
He
understood the power of love, friendship, family, loyalty, etc. So he built an
Order focused on these ideals. It also makes sense thematically; Luke outgrew
his teachers so it makes sense for his Order to be better than theirs. Instead of
making their old mistakes again and again (murder, scheming, politics, etc),
Luke created something new, something better proving his way – the truly
compassionate and honest way – was the better one.
“The evolution of sentience reflects the
constant movement between those two poles. Evil—the dark side—won’t be
eradicated until it has been discarded as an option for acquiring power,
subjugating would-be opponents, or offsetting feelings of anger, envy, or
exclusion. Where victims of injustice
exist, the dark side finds initiates. That is the cycle our actions are
meant to forestall, and in this battle the Force is both our ally and our
guardian. We serve it best by listening to its will, and serving the good with
our every action—by personifying the Force. But I’m no longer convinced that we’re meant to police the galaxy. For
one thing, we’re too few in number. That was made evident early in the war, and
it’s likely to hold true for whatever conflicts erupt in the coming years. The
Jedi began as a meditative order. Our forebears believed that they could
balance light and dark by remaining always in the Force, and thereby perfecting
themselves. Gradually, however, as the
Supreme Chancellors appealed to the Order time and again for advice in
resolving disputes, the Jedi became adjuncts of the Old Republic, then marshals
and warriors, taking it upon themselves to uphold the peace, and little by
little being drawn away from the Force and into the mundane. I don’t propose that we place ourselves in
seclusion and pass our days meditating on the Force—though that might be the
path for some of us. But I do advocate attuning ourselves to the longer view,
and reaching out to others who seek to serve the Force.The genetic makeup of each and every one of
us augments our ability to tap the Force, but everyone, regardless of his or
her genetics, has the potential to use the Force to one degree or another.
Perhaps not to move rocks and take giant strides; but in some sense those
physical powers are little more than surface effects. The real powers are more
subtle, for they involve adhering to the true path, avoiding the temptation to
dominate, sacrificing oneself for those who have less, and living impeccably,
by recognizing that the Force doesn’t flow from us but through us, ever on the
move. Like our damaged galaxy, the new Jedi order will require generations to
define itself. [James Luceno. The Unifying Force]
Luke
Skywalker is awesome. He created an Order that allowed love (all types of
love), that didn’t control knowledge, that fostered creativity, humility,
compassion, independence and the sense of personal responsibility in all it’s
students. He didn’t took babies from their parents. He recognized the necessity for accountability and that the Force
didn’t belong to the Jedi Order.
Anakin and
Padmé first time was never described. I think the closest we got from a description of
this:
“In the
end, Anakin knew, the only thing that had saved him was Padmé, and the
single perfect day they spent together after their secret wedding. Her love.
Her patience. Her unquestioning acceptanceof everything the Jedi demanded
that he deny. [Karen Miller’s The Clone Wars: Wild Space]”
Btw, i
said I *think* they first time was awkward. It’s just my opinion 🙂
But Lucas revealed that despite their monastic regime,
Jedi were permitted to have sex.“Jedi
Knights aren’t celibate – the thing that is forbidden is attachments – and
possessive relationships.”
This quote is from a interview George gave to BBC News
in 2002. Here is
the link if you want to read the whole think.
As for
the childbearing part, that’s why I strongly believe they received sexual
education. The Jedi Order allowed sex but they totally against force dynasties.
They did not allowed force-sensitives to create families powerful in the Force
(this is one of the reason why some many of us believe the Skywalkers would’ve been
considered a problem if Anakin hadn’t fallen).
If sex was
allowed but babies were not, one would assume they taught them some preventive
measures.
If they do allow sex, what do you think would happen if a Jedi did wind up pregnant? With Satele Shan’s son, they separated child from mother, but that’s the Old Republic Jedi, not the post-ruusan Jedi.
We have more confirmation that the jedi Council didn’t like
force-sensitives to have families so if we are talking about two jedi having a
babies thing would get complicated. I don’t remember ever reading about such
case during the PT years so it’s hard to tell for sure how thing would work
out.
No. The
Force has no conscience, it just is. It’s part of nature, not some omnipotent and
omniscient entity. The “will of the Force” is something the Jedi (and most
force-sensitives groups) came up to explain their relationship with the Force.
If something happened that had no logical explanation they knew of, it was the
will of the Force, if they needed justify their actions it was the will of the
force, etc.
Experimenting
with the Force, in most cases, is considered wrong because the Jedi said so. Many groups deal
with the Force their own way, the ones the Jedi Order deems tolerable are allow
to keep existing. The ones they consider wrong are destroyed (the Sith). But,
to be fair, the Sith used the Force for some pretty nasty things and the Force,
being part of nature of the galaxy, was more than just something to
experimented on indiscriminately. Too much meddling could lead to the entire
galaxy to dangerous places.
And then
the Jedi declared that to be born with Force powers was not a gift or a curse.
They insisted it was a calling. They
proclaimed the Force should never be used for selfish purposes, that all
Force-sensitive beings were obligated to use their powers for the benefit of
others. Many Force users joined the Jedi Order, but the Jedi were not
satisfied with their numbers. They
sought out the so-called wizards and demons, and gave them three options. Join
the Jedi, cease using Force powers, or die. [Darh Maul in Ryder Windham’s
The wrath of Darth Maul]
The Jedi
Order politicized the Force to keep their control over the galaxy. They had a
Force monopoly going on. They mixed politics with religion and things slowly
got mixed up. it got to a point they no longer could separate their political
goals from their religious ones. The will of the Senate/Council became the will
of the Force. Something that
was used to explain coincidences became a justification of the Council’s
decisions.
There isn’t
much scientific experimentation with the Force within the Jedi Order because they
prohibited, because it serves their political goals better.
“As Jedi learn more about the Force, it is
not unusual for them to form their own theories about how and why it works. They
question how, if the Force creates and sustains life, it can have a dark side.
Some arrive at the conclusion that the Force is not divided into dark and
light, that its energy is inherently positive, and that there is no “dark side”
waiting to corrupt them. Time and again, this conclusion has been proved
erroneous, and the Jedi who felt
compelled to test the limits of the Force rarely perceived the dangers of their
explorations. As they approached the brink of the dark side, some were
rescued by other Jedi or came back willingly when they saw the error of their
ways. Those who refused to renounce
their mistaken the beliefs were either exiled to the farthest reaches of the
galaxy, or destroyed.[Ryder’s Windham’s Jedi vs. Sith: The
Essential Guide to the Force]
The “balance” was another example of force-sensitives politicizing the
Force. The Sith wanted a chosen one to kill all the Jedi and the Jedi wanted a
chosen one to kill all the sith. But, truth is, the Force did balance itself
out when it created Anakin. the Sith vs Jedi conflict was political. Anakin
existence was enough, he didn’t HAVE to become a sith or a Jedi. all they had
to do was let nature take its course, you know, follow the “will of the Force”.
[Plagueis] had to see this Anakin Skywalker
for himself; had to sense him for himself. He had to know if the Force had
struck back again, nine years earlier, by
conceiving a human being to restore balance to the galaxy. […] There was
still a chance that the Council would decide that Anakin was too old to be
trained as a Jedi. That way, assuming he was returned to Tatooine … But if
not … If Qui-Gon managed to sway the Council Masters, and they
reneged on their own dictates …
Plagueis ran a hand over his forehead. Are we undone? he thought. Have you
undone us? [James Luceno. Darth Plagueis]
Plagueis knew enough to understand Anakin didn’t have to become a sith
or a Jedi to be a threat and do his job, something the Jedi never figured out
because they were too busy forcing Anakin to be exactly like them.
Wow, that is a tough question. I haven’t read any of the old Legends stuff about growing up Jedi, so I’m just going to comment on what we see in the films and Clone Wars cartoon.
It’s important to note that no one, with the possible exception of Anakin, actually consented to join the Jedi. They were all drafted as infants or toddlers. From a very young age they are groomed for combat. @howtofightwrite has some excellent posts about children raised for combat. The goal of the Jedi Order’s childrearing and training practices is to create effective fighters with an intense loyalty to the Order and the cause they serve. They accomplish this through isolation, indoctrination, and the rigorous suppression of dissent. Children are pushed to do and be their best, but I seriously doubt that the Order is going to do anything which endangers their health before the age of ten or so. They aren’t going to beat them. They aren’t going to train them to the point of injury. Force-sensitive kids are a rare and precious commodity and the Order isn’t going to risk losing them to injury or the Darth Side.
By the time the kids are ten or so, then they’re willing to endanger them. We see this during the Gathering arc. The kids are sent into a cave where they undergo a test of character involving hallucinations, extreme temperatures, and potentially life-threatening situations. Ezra and Luke undergo something similar during the course of their training. Everyone consents to participating, but none of the people involve fully understand what they’re about to endure. In the case of Ezra, we see real proof that people have died during the test. We don’t know if anyone has died during the Gathering, but it is presented to the children as a real possibility at the outset. Tests for children that conceivably involve dying if you fail is pretty fucked up.
Tests and object lessons remain a pretty consistent thing with the Jedi from this point on. Initiates have to pass the Padawan Trials. Padawans have to pass the Knight Trials. Knights are assigned padawans to test their ability to handle losing said padawan. Teenagers are repeatedly placed in deadly situations with minimal support to see if they survive. A group of children are kidnapped and left to fend for themselves as Council members declare they’ll be fine and find their own way back if they’re worthy students.
This is all deeply fucked up and symptomatic of the way the Order views it’s members. Jedi, regardless of age, are disposable resources meant to serve a greater purpose. This is fundamentally dehumanizing and results in the various emotionally stunted messes we see on screen.
@howtofightwrite writes in another post about abusive trainers that the key to understanding abusive training scenarios is all about control. Abusive trainers want their trainees to serve them, their needs, and their interests, regardless of what is good for the trainee. I’m just going to quote a few paragraphs from the original post rather than rephrase because it’s just too perfect:
A character with an abusive instructor may become a great fighter, but they will also be emotionally crippled. Like a bully, they will feel the need to exert control over their environment, create their own little kingdoms, and lash out at those who threaten their authority.
A character who cannot embrace their teacher’s outlook will be shattered, chased by self-doubt, and end up too mentally insecure to succeed at warfare. Their confidence is crushed, and whatever they learn from their teacher they don’t have the fortitude to use.
That’s the consequence of an abusive instructor.
You embrace them and become like them.
Or…
You reject them, and they break you.
This is not physical, they break their student emotionally through neglect, through failure, by critically hampering their ability to succeed, by undercutting them, or changing the goalposts on them.
This is literally what happens to Anakin. We see this happen to him over the course of the Clone Wars series and films. We also see them do this to Ahsoka, especially during her trials. We also see a bit of this with Caleb in the Kanan comics when he gets yelled at for asking questions.
And so, to sum up, yes, the Jedi Order was an abusive training environment. They didn’t beat the initiates, but they did recklessly endanger their lives and emotional wellbeing as part of various tests. Their end goal was not to create functional, successful adults, but rather soldiers blindly fighting for their cause and they psychologically broke anyone who didn’t immediately fall in line.
I think it
depends on what you mean by fandom. The movies never made it overly explicit
(in-your-face slavery) so I think the “casual fans” ever gave it much thought. Figuring
the overall vibe of the fandom on this topic is hard because the fandom is so
fractured. I believe most fans who are interested in the EU know the clone army
is a slave army. The EU makes it pretty clear. The real problem is the people
who know but choose to ignore it or make excuses. I’ve seen fans argue that
real victims of the creation of the clone army were the Jedi. And they were not
talking about Order 66, they were arguing that the people who suffered the most
from the Kaminoans work were the Jedi. That the Jedi had no choice but to accept
a slave army and that’s makes them honorable victims. Those arguments offend me
far more than a fan who never realized they were a slave army because they
never looked into it.
Speaking of
offensive arguments, the writers absolutely realized the clones were slaves but
sucked at talking about it. It feels like they wanted to show they were slaves
at the same time they wanted to show the Jedi as benevolent and Anakin as
unreasonable. But the thing is, there’s no such a thing a good slave owner. The
same way there’s nothing unreasonable about wanting to abolish slavery.
By not
fully embracing the issue and exploring it in a satisfactory away they created
this gray area where slavery sort of happens and it’s kind of bad. An area where
everyone is somehow justified in not doing more. And when the writers don’t know
how to approach the subject, it’s not surprising the fandom doesn’t either. It’s
even less surprising that some take this slip-up as moral ambiguity and use it
against the slaves to make their heroes look better (and send rape threats to
the writers that do want to talk about it).
It’s interesting to me just how persistent the myth of the ‘good’ slave owner is, especially in the United States. I guess when a not insignificant portion of the viewer’s (and writer’s) ancestors owned people, the idea that it was possible to both be a person-owner and a good person has to exist so people can look back at their ancestors without being overwhelmed by the shame.
In a way though, #notallslaveowners is a lot like #notallmen. Even if they weren’t beating or starving their slaves, those owners were still a) exploiting the labor of enslaved people, b) using the implied threat of force to compel said labor. Enslaved people sure knew that they could be beaten, tortured, starved, separated from their loved ones at any time even if their ‘good’ master had never done so simply because that’s what slave owners do.
Basically, the Jedi do not deserve a cookie for treating the clones with some semblance of humanity. Yoda telling a clone that he sees him as a unique being whose life has value means exactly dick when he would throw literally anyone under the bus for the Greater Good with or without their consent. Shaak Ti speaking kindly to the clones means nothing when she also refers to them as Republic property and makes potentially fatal medical decisions for them without their consent. Basically, the Jedi don’t have to be Pong Krell to be bad. All they have to do is allow Pong Krell to stay in the field despite ridiculous casualties because, hey, at least he wins. And that’s not even going into the part where the clones all have mind control chips THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT and are cool with.
And the Jedi are only “kind” to the Clones because Kamino already took care of ensuring their compliance.
If their army hadn’t come to them already brainwashed from birth, if desertion was something that happened more than once in a blue moon, if it didn’t take DEAFON 7 for them to *think* about disobeying orders in the field – Hell, stakes don’t even need to be that high, if the Clones couldn’t be trusted to hold to military discipline all by their lonesome – would they be so kind?
If the choice was to be not so nice or loose their army, what would they pick?
As it is in The Clone Wars cartoon, they’re like the fun uncle who can swan in and be all chummy and permissive with the kids because the parents are the ones actually doing the job of teaching them the rules and enforcing them*.
*Only in this case, the parents are abusive slavers robbing them of their agency and personhood before they can develop it, so that they can conveniently be used as canon fodder by the fun uncle.
Jedi
Initiate: the youngest members of the Jedi order. They achive their rank when
they are old enough for individual instruction (2 years old for humans).
Jedi
Padawan: from adolescence (12 years old
for humans) until you become a Knight or are reassigned to the Service Corps
Jedi Knight:
If you successfully pass your Trails.
Jedi Master:
highest formal recognition one can achieve in the Jedi Order.
Jedi
GrandMaster: is a title bestowed upon the greatest of all Masters. Only one
single Jedi can be appointed Grand Master at any one time.
Jedi Roles
Once you
pass you are knighted you assume a role. Every knight has one:
Jedi Guardians: the first line of defense against the Republic’s enemies (peacekeepers, temple
security, jedi starfighters, lightsaber instructors, exotic weapons
specialists, etc).
Jedi Consular:
their job is to prevent the spread of evil and uphold the central precepts of the
Jedi Code (Jedi seer, Jedi healer, Jedi researcher, Jedi ambassador, Jedi
diplomat, lore keepers, etc).
Jedi
Sentinel: combine Guardian and Consular disciplines with civilian’s expertise.
They have acquired skills that don’t require Force-sensitivity (slicer, tech
expert, security expert, Jedi shadows, etc).
Jedi Service Corps
If you do
not pass your trials to become a Knight or if you are not picked up to be a
padawan learner the Council can reassign you to the Jedi Service Corps. If you
accept you can retain you title of Padawan or simply go by Jedi. Once you are
there, you will join on of the four branches of service available. You won’t be
a Knight but you will still remain part of the Jedi Order.
Jedi
Knights and Masters can also become part of the Service Corps, if they so
choose.
Agricultural Corps: affiliated with the Republic Agricultural
Administration. They use the Force to “nurture anc are for green and growing
things”. Their “enemies” are droughts, blights, diseased and imbalance.
Medical
Corps: part of the Halls of Healing. Uses the Force to aid healing and
encourage healthy cell growth. Its members are sent into war zones and disaster
areas.
Educational
Corps: scholars, teachers and archivists. They work under the supervision of
the Temple’s chief librarian and spend most of their days cataloging and
translating.
Exploration
Corps: their mission is to uncover new planets, hyperroutes and to assist any
innocents they may find in the course of their adventures.
Clone Army Ranks
General: knights and Masters.
Commander: Padawans.
“The Jedi—technically already members of the
Judicial Department—were appointed officers in the Grand Army, as well as
the Republic Navy, Starfighter Corps, and Special Operations Brigade. While the Jedi were officially part of the military hierarchy, their
responsibilities and commands were fluid […]. For the sake of simplicity, Padawans considered suited for military
duties were given the rank of commander, while Jedi Knights and Masters were
referred to as generals”.The Essential Guide to Warfare: Star Wars by Jason Fry.”
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