Because
there were 12 seats in the Council and only 2 were occupied by women? And because
in the 13 years covered by the Prequels 20 beings sat on the Council and only 5
of them were women.The rank of
master was the highest ranking one could achieve within the Order. If we
consider some of the most popular Jedi Masters (35 individuals) during the PT
years, 23 of them are male and only 12 are female. Out of these 23, 16 were
part of the Jedi Council or were considered for the position.Female Jedi
Masters (13): Aayla Secura, Siri Tachi, Tahl, Stass Allie, Adi Gallia, Depa
Billaba, Jocasta Nu, Luminara Unduli, Yaddle, Shaak Ti, Tiplar, Tiplee,Female
Masters on the Jedi Council (5): Stass Allie, Adi Gallia, Depa Billaba, Yaddle,
Shaak Ti.Male Jedi
Masters (23): Dooku, Kit Fisto, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Plo Koon, Pong
Krell, Eeth Koth, Quinlan Vos, Mace Windu, Agen Kolar, Yoda, Saesee Tiin, Sifo-Dyas,
Even Piell, Yarael Poof, Qui-Gon Jinn, Coleman Kcaj, Oppo Rancisis, Coleman
Trebor, Ima-Gun Di, Cin Drallig, J’oopi Shé, Tera Sinube.Male
Masters on the Jedi Council or considered for the position (18): Dooku, Kit Fisto, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ki-Adi-Mundi,
Plo Koon, Eeth Koth, Mace Windu, Agen Kolar, Yoda, Saesee Tiin, Sifo-Dyas, Even
Piell, Yarael Poof, Qui-Gon Jinn, Coleman Kcaj, Oppo Rancisis, Coleman Trebor.78% of the male
Jedi Masters were eventually considered for joining the Jedi Council and only
38% of the women. If you were a female Jedi the odds of you becoming a Master
and ever joining the Council were slim but if you were male, the odds would be
in your favor.Of course,
this is probably the result of Star Wars being a male centric adventure. The
real blame should go to the writers but that doesn’t change the fact they
constructed a narrative that makes the Jedi Order and the world in general look
extremely biased against women (especially women of color).
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professorerudite replied to your post “I hop you know I wasn’t trying to be mean or calling you out, just…”
Do you know if Obi-Wan replaced Depa Billaba on the Jedi Council after AotC? Do you think that might have influenced why they chose Obi-Wan?
The
Wookieepedia says Obi-wan replaced Depa Billaba, however, that info is unsourced
so we don’t know for sure it’s true or not.If we use
the info we have and the dates of some of their deaths we can make the
followinf assumptions:
Anakin Skywalker: The boy who hid his heart
One of the
most heartbreaking things about Anakin’s childhood at the Jedi Temple was his
inability to fit in. the Jedi’s inability to help him to find a home is something
I have a hard time forgiving and understanding. How did they justified it to
themselves? Didn’t them realize that alienating a boy goes against everything
the Jedi stand for? Community, compassion, non-judgment, etc.More importantly,
how does it affects Anakin and how Obi-wan deals with it?As much as criticize
Jude Watson for creating Gary Stu, I have to admit she really knows how to hit
me right in the feels. All the quotes are from the book Jedi Apprentice Special Edition: Deceptions by Jude Watson. So let me give credit where credit is due by sharing
this with you all:They had been heading back from an intense physical
workout when Obi-Wan had spied the students from Anakin’s year heading to the
lake. He had seen the longing in
Anakin’s eyes as the students dived into the cool water.“Go ahead,” Obi-Wan had told him.
“Take some time off.”Anakin
had looked at him uncertainly, but Obi-Wan
shooed him off. It puzzled and worried
Obi-Wan how much time his Padawan spent alone. Anakin had told him that
he’d had good friends on Tatooine, especially a human boy named Kitster. He’d
been at the Temple for three years now,
but he hadn’t made one close friend, although he was well liked and
certainly got along with the other kids.Obi-wan needs to Anakin for a debrief session with Yoda. Here remember the last
time he had saw Anakin and immediately assumes Anakin is playing with the padawans
at the lake. Obi-wan recognizes the longing in Anakin’s eyes and yet fails to
fully understand why Anakin was hesitant. Anakin’s longing is not only for the water.
Anakin longs for acceptance and friendship.Obi-Wan had tried to talk to him about it, but the boy would just shut down. His eyes
would turn opaque and the corners of his mouth would straighten into a thin
line. He would seem very far away. Obi-Wan did not know how to reach him at
such times, but they were infrequent and passed as quickly as a rain shower.Dissociation? At the age of 12, Anakin has been through
enough trauma and it would fit the C-PTSD diagnosis, since it’s a psychological disorder associated with
“repetitive, prolonged trauma involving harm or abandonment by a caregiver or
other interpersonal relationships with an uneven power dynamic.” Some of the
symptoms beings attachment issues (lack of trust, social isolation,
etc.), poor emotional regulation and dissociation.When they’d met, Anakin had been a warm-hearted
nine-year-old boy with an open nature. He was twelve and a half now, and the
years had changed him. He had grown to be a boy who hid his heart.I’m not crying. You’re crying!
[Obi-Wan] couldn’t resist a moment to see if Anakin
was enjoying himself with the others. He scanned the happy, splashing group
with the smile still on his face. It slowly faded as he realized that Anakin
wasn’t there. With a sigh, Obi-Wan turned away. He hurried to the nearest
turbolift. He knew where Anakin was. The
boy sometimes retreated to his own quarters.Again with
the social isolation.“I thought you wanted to swim,” Obi-Wan
said.That shuttered look came over Anakin’s face.
“I hadwork to do,” he muttered.Obi-Wan crouched by him. “This isn’t work,
Anakin. It’s a hobby. And if you are
using it to keep distance between you and your fellow students, it’s not a
helpful one.”Anakin looked up, his bright eyes keen again. “But I’m making
things, Master! Look, I’ve almost got this astromech ready for service.”“Mechanical ability is a valuable skill,” Obi-Wan said.
“That is not what I meant, and you know it.”“They
don’t want me,” Anakin said flatly. He walked over and slung the legs of
the protocol droid under one arm. “I’m not like them.”
Obi-Wan couldn’t argue. Anakin was unique. There was no question about
that. He was an exceptional student, much more in tune with the Force than
others his age. He had come late to the Temple. It wasn’t that the other students disliked him,
they just didn’t know what to make of him.Anakin
knows he’s not truly accepted, so why bother? And this is why I have a hard
time defending the Jedi’s treatment of Anakin. we are talking about a 12 years
old child with a traumatic past. As their teachers, legal guardians and family
they had the duty to do right by him. But instead of helping this child, these
wise masters sat in their comfortable chairs criticizing him constantly and not
doing anything about it. People try to excuse the Jedi behavior here by saying
they didn’t believe “in therapy” and such but you know what? You don’t need to
believe in therapy to be a decent human being and do right by a child.The jedi
had a hive mentality. If the council decided Anakin was like everyone else, the
rest would follow. They were not known for being indivual thinkers (the will of
the Council is the will of the Force) anyway. If masters like Ki-adi-mundi were
wary of Anakin, why wouldn’t the children be too?Even if a
mental health professional was beyond them, instead of marking hin as different
(as if that was necessarily a bad thing) they should had reinforced the idea
that every jedi was worth the same and that no judgment was a allowed. In the
end of the day, it was the little things that would have made the difference. Look
how beneficial Ahsoka was to his health, imagine if he that the entire Jedi
Temple supporting him.When did it happen? Obi-Wan wondered again. Why did it happen? Was it the loss of his
mother, followed so closely by the death of Qui-Gon? Obi-Wan could not replace
those people in Anakin’s heart, nor did he wish to. He had hoped
that with Jedi training and their own relationship, Anakin would come to find
peace. He had not.And here is
where Obi-wan fails. As much as he cares about Anakin he completely fails to
see the bigger picture. he’s aware of Anakin’s struggles and he wants to help
more than anything. But he also lays it all on Anakin. in his mind, Anakin is
the one that needs to change not the Jedi. The solution to Anakin’s problems is
to become a Jedi like everyone else. Obi-wan never wonder if the Jedi are wrong
in their treatment of Anakin, he disagree with their opinions but sides against them.Barely two weeks ago, Yoda and Mace Windu had expressed doubts that
Anakin was ready for a mission. Anakin lacked discipline, they said.
Obi-Wan disagreed. It wasn’t so much a lack of discipline that caused
Anakin to break rules and send his droids scurrying over
the Temple corridors. It was partially boredom, he thought. No matter what
he threw at Anakin, the boy mastered it. He needed more challenges.
Where Yoda and Mace Windu saw a lack of discipline, Obi-Wan saw an
emotional restlessness that could not be cured by hard study or physical
trials.Obi-wan
believes they are wrong but instead of trying to change the behavior of the
Council, he tries to change Anakin. And that’s their tragedy. Anakin was never
able to fully open up to Obi-wan because he probably sensed that Obi-wan would
side with the Council. And years later, he did. In Mustafar, while every cell
in his body was telling him not to harm Anakin, he still did it because the
Council (Yoda) told him to and the will of the Council is the will of the
Force. Which also makes Obi-wan a victim, because by following the will of the
Council (as he was indoctrinated to do) he destroyed any change he had of
living (and dying) in peace.
Hi I just read something from you blog that made me curious about a few stuff What did Anakin think about being the Chosen One? How did he find out? Did the council tell him? Was it a burden, like a heavy responsibility? Did he spend time wondering what was in store for him, in order to fullfill the prophecy, what he was supposed to do? Or, over time, he just got used to not think too much about the whole thing? Did he and Obi Wan talk about it? Did Obi Wan believe Anakin was the Chosen One?
Here we go
🙂What did Anakin think about being the Chosen
One?He was
rightfully bitter about it. He was told he was the Chosen One but one bother to
help him figure what that meant or how to properly control his powerThe Jedi Council didn’t want me, either. Being
the Chosen One didn’t count for anything. Master Yoda wouldn’t train me, or
Windu. Every member of the Jedi Council
had had something more pressing to do than help him work out what this
terrible, galaxy-changing power of his meant, and how he should live in its
shadow. He still wasn’t sure. Karen Traviss’s The Clone WarsHe was the Chosen One, they told him. He was
supposed to bring balance to the Force. Anakin
thought that some little extra support might go with being the Chosen One, a
helping hand or at least some understanding from the Jedi Council, but instead
he was passed around like an unwelcome burden, ending up with Qui-Gon Jinn and
then Kenobi because nobody else would have him. His chosen status meant
less than nothing; it felt more like a stigma. And they wondered why he was
difficult at times. Maybe they didn’t want balance, whatever that was. Maybe
nobody liked a Jedi who was that different. He felt like an embarrassment to
them. I do everything you ask of me. I try so hard. When is it going to be
enough? When are you going to say, “Okay, Anakin Skywalker, you’re good
enough”? Karen Traviss’s The Clone WarsHow did he find out? Did the council tell him?
Yes, in TPM
when the Council is discussing his fate as he wasn’t even in the room:Ki-Adi-Mundi: The Force is strong with him.
Qui-Gon Jinn: He’s to be trained, then.
Mace Windu: No. He will not be trained.
Qui-Gon Jinn: No?!
Mace Windu: He is too old.
Qui-Gon Jinn: He is the Chosen One! You must see it!
Did he and Obi Wan talk about it?
Sometimes.
“You would forgo your destiny for
Padme?”Anakin’s brows bettled in anger. “I
never claimed to be the Chosen One. That was Qui-Gon. Even the Council
doesn’t believe it anymore, so why should you?””Because I think you believe
it,” Obi-Wan said calmly. “I think you
know in your heart that you’re meant for something extraordinary.”“And you,
Master. What does your heart tell you you’re meant for?”“Infinite sadness,”
Obi-Wan said, even while smiling. James Luceno’s Labyrinth of Evil“Sometimes I
don’t want to be the Chosen One,” Anakin said.
The words broke free. They felt like stones in his mouth. “That’s not
surprising,” Obi-Wan said. “Many gifts can be burdens.”
“The Force is so strong. I can feel it so much. I feel so much. I don’t
want to feel so much!” Anakin hardly recognized his voice, choked and aching.
Obi-Wan looked startled at his vehemence. “Why am I chosen? Why is it me? Can’t I refuse it? Can’t you let me
refuse it? Can’t you take it away?” Jude Watson’s The Moment of Truth.Did he
spend time wondering what was in store for him, in order to fullfill the
prophecy, what he was supposed to do? Or, over time, he just got used to not
think too much about the whole thing?He thought
about what it meant, he was conscious of his enormous potential and
extraordinary skill but he ddin’t have a plan. He was conflicted. He was told
he was the chosen one and that’s it. No knew what that really meant or how
should he bring balance to the Force. No one really helped him so he carried
that burden alone. I think he tried not avoid thinking about it whenever
possible.As he reached the Council chamber door, Mace
Windu’s voice made him pause. “The Force is with him, Anakin. You are wrong to
be afraid.” Yeah, yeah. Wrong to be afraid, wrong to be worried, wrong to care
two bantha pats what happened to Obi-Wan. Everything
I do is wrong. But you still expect me to save you, don’t you? Karen Miller’s
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Wild SpaceThe
prophecy wasn’t something that was constantly guide. If anything, I think the
Council was more interested in that than Anakin. They saw him as weapon, only
important when they needed to use him:We have seen that young Skywalker has the power
to battle a Sith Lord alone, if need be; he has proven that with Dooku. If he is indeed the chosen one, we must
keep him in play against the Sith—keep him in a position to fulfill his
destiny.” “And even if the prophecy has been misread,” Agen Kolar added,
“Anakin is the one Jedi we can best hope would survive an encounter with a Sith
Lord. So let us also use him to help us
set our trap. Matthew
Stover’s revenge of the SithAnakin flung an arm back toward the Council Tower. “They’re the ones who call me the chosen one! Chosen for what? To be a dupe in some slimy political game?”Matthew Stover’s Revenge of the Sith
Did Obi Wan believe Anakin was the Chosen One?
Yes. As
their friendship developed Obi-wan believed more and more in Anakin’s status as
the chosen one. However, the moment Anakin became Vader he stopped and decided
he was wrong the whole time and Luke was the real chosen one. But after he
watch Anakin kill Palpatine he realized Anakin was the only real chosen one 🙂What if Anakin should be
killed? Could he even be killed? As the Chosen One, was he destined to fulfill
both the title and the prophecy? Was he immune to real harm, or – as someone
born to restore balance to the Force – did he require defenders to guide him to
that destiny? Was it Obi-Wan’s duty – more, the duty of all the Jedi
– to see to it that he survived at all costs?
Matthew
Stover’s revenge of the SithObi-Wan
sensed confusion and remorse in Anakin’s psyche, then Anakin answered,
“But Master…why me?” “Because you ended the horror,
Anakin,” Obi-Wan said. “Because you fulfilled the prophecy. Because you were…and are..the Chosen
One.” Ryder Windham’s he Life and
Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi