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arctrooper-ross:

I feel like someone (maybe a person of color) needs to re-write the clones and their narrative. This idea that if it weren’t for the chips, they were in love with the Jedi and had no qualms with them is inaccurate, and insulting to people who are actually descendants of slaves and or colonized people. Like the writers don’t even realize how wrong it is to make the clones so attached to people that oppress them, while implying that the only reason the clones would ever think twice about the Jedi is because of the chips. Like I’m so upset with how Wolffe’s narrative was treated? let this man hate the jedi for what  they’ve done to him and his brothers. let his distrust of them be valid! 

The writers did not know how to write the clones, and I mean none of the writers. These people clearly cannot put themselves in the shoes of an oppressed individual. They always have to insert some hidden feelings of love and respect for the Jedi (or not hidden at all) and thus the fandom interprets it as impossible that the clones could ever possibly have ill feelings for the jedi because of the chips!  Like i pray for a writer who actually knows how to write the clones respectfully because i have just about had it. 

Yes! And like OP said, Wolffe’s narrative is completely valid!. Here in Peru, after almost 200 years since we got our independence, we’re still seeing the effects that colonization and enslavement had in our people.

These things don’t go away easily, and expecting the clones, specially the ones who actually took their chips out, still having a high respect for the Jedi is just unrealistic.

Let me explain some of this (sorry in advance because I’m not an expert in history), in colonial times, there were laws that were supposed to protect native people. Of course that never happened because native people were enslaved and if they didn’t want to die, they just had stay quiet and obey. And apart from these “laws” not being followed, they treated native people as they were kids, they were considered “underage, not able to think for themselves, we (the conquerors) have the duty to teach them what to do and who to follow because obviously they can’t think for themselves” and this is just disgusting. Native people were totally capable of taking care on their own, despite what the conquerors said. If it wasn’t for their constant fight, we would have never gained independence, it was thanks to THEM, these native people, that we are free now.

But, like I said, these things don’t go away easily. The effects that we’re still seeing are mostly racism, exploitation of peasants (most of them directly descendants from native people), “forgetting” about the native communities that still exist and not giving them the opportunity to have a better life, government making laws that benefit foreigners than our own people.

But I also have to mention that most of these people were so brainwashed that they believed that the conquerors did a great job here and that they were the heroes. This opinion is divided half in half between the people, but most will agree that the way they treated us was absolutely disgusting.

Now let’s take this to the clones case, they were also enslaved, made to believe that the Jedi were their saviors, were killed doing something THEY never chose to do. And they’re telling me that they are expected to admire the Jedi? That they still want to keep fighting for them? The Jedi, who were supposed to protect every living being, and that slavery was something they would not tolerate (remember the “laws” I mentioned earlier), but still only used the clones as objects? Does anybody really thinks that the clones would still admire the Jedi? Sure, they will have SOME respect for the ones who treated them somewhat better than others, but that’s NOT the same thing as admiring them and consider them perfect heroes.

Imo, most clones would be disgusted by thinking about the time they served the Jedi. The way they were treated by the Jedi, was disgusting. Even the ones who were told that they were real people who deserved better, still were thrown into battles expecting them to sacrifice themselves so the Jedi could live.

So, no, the writers didn’t took any of this into consideration while writing the clones. They wanted us to make us believe that the Jedi were always perfect, and to do that, they had to erase all the suffering the clones had to go through and erase all the job they did BY THEMSELVES. They didn’t need the Jedi to be great soldiers, they didn’t need the Jedi to win battles, they didn’t need the Jedi to discover the chip plot! They didn’t need the Jedi to take care of them because they are completely capable of taking care of themselves. And to think they did need the Jedi, is to have the mentality of a conquerors, an enslaver.

omg this is so good! thank you for this addition.